interviewer: You deliberately keep your distance from other living writers.
Thomas Bernhard: No, not deliberately at all. It comes naturally.
I: What, in your view, is a conversation?
TB: When talking is supposed to become conversation, that's when things get gruesome. There are collected conversations, hundreds of them, books full. Entire publishing houses live off them. Like something coming out of an anus, and then it gets squashed in between book covers.
TB: You can sit at home, put your books on the shelf, and when you look at them, you think: "Sad".